Ben_West🔸

Member of Technical Staff @ METR

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Non-EA interests include chess and TikTok (@benthamite). We are probably hiring: https://metr.org/hiring 

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AI Pause Debate Week
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EA Awards

  1. I feel worried that the ratio of the amount of criticism that one gets for doing EA stuff to the amount of positive feedback one gets is too high
  2. Awards are a standard way to counteract this
  3. I would like to explore having some sort of awards thingy
  4. I currently feel most excited about something like: a small group of people solicit nominations and then choose a short list of people to be voted on by Forum members, and then the winners are presented at a session at EAG BA
  5. I would appreciate feedback on:
    1. whether people think this is a good idea
    2. How to frame this - I want to avoid being seen as speaking on behalf of all EAs
  6. Also if anyone wants to volunteer to co-organize with me I would appreciate hearing that

It looks like she did a giving season fundraiser for Helen Keller International, which she credits to the EA class she took. Maybe we will see her at a future EAG!

Gave ~50% of my income to my DAF. I will probably disburse it mostly to AI Safety things which make sense on <= 5 year AGI timelines.

Adult film star Abella Danger apparently took an class on EA at University of Miami, became convinced, and posted about EA to raise $10k for One for the World. She was PornHub's most popular female performer in 2023 and has ~10M followers on instagram. Her post has ~15k likes, comments seem mostly positive.

I think this might be the class that @Richard Y Chappell🔸 teaches?

Thanks Abella and kudos to whoever introduced her to EA!

Thank you for sharing your donation choices!

Kudos for making this post! I think it's hard to notice when money would best we spent elsewhere, particularly when you do actually have a use for it, and I appreciate you being willing to share this.

Fair enough! fwiw I would not have guessed that most pause AI supporters have a p(doom) of 90%+. My guess is that the crux between you is actually that they believe it's worth pushing for a policy even if you I think it's possible you will change your mind in the future. (But people should correct me if I'm wrong!)

"Demis Hassabis, reckless!" honestly feels to me like a pretty tame protest chant. I did a Google search for "protest" and this was the first result. Signs are things like "one year of genocide funded by UT" which seems both substantially more extreme and less epistemically valid than calling Demis "reckless."

My sense from your other points is that you just don't actually want pause AI to accomplish their goals, so it's kind of over-determined for you, but if I wanted to tell a story about how a grassroots movement successfully got a international pause on AI, various people chanting that the current AI development process is reckless seems pretty fine to me?

Huh, fwiw this is not my anecdotal experience. I would suggest that this is because I spend more time around doomers than you and doomers are very influenced by Yudkowsky's "don't fight over which monkey gets to eat the poison banana first" framing, but that seems contradicted by your example being ACX, who is also quite doomer-adjacent.

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