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Could you provide examples of political discussions on the EA Forum that appear to have negatively impacted the forum’s environment or impaired its ability to achieve its objectives?

As far as I remember, the political discussions have been quite civilized on the EA Forum. But I think this is because of the policies and culture the EA Forum has. If political discussions were a lot more frequent, the culture and discussion styles could get worse. For example, it might attract EA-adjacent people or even outsiders to fight their political battles on the EA Forum. Maybe this can be solved by hiring additional moderators though.

Also, politics can get a lot of attention that would be better spend elsewhere. For example this post about Trump generated 60 comments, and I am not sure if it was worth it.

Could you expand a bit on how this would look like? How are they being "shunted", what kind of roles are low-level roles? (E.g. your claim could be that the average male EA CS-student is much less likely to hear "You should change from AI safety to community-building" than female EA CS-students.)

That is, many (most?) people need a break-in point to move from something like "basically convinced that EA is good, interested in the ideas and consuming content, maybe donating 10%" to anything more ambitious.

I am under the impression that EAGx can be such a break-in point, and has lower admission standards than EAG. In particular, there is EAGxVirtual (Applications are open!).

Has the rejected person you are thinking of applied to any EAGx conference?

I think sounding like a salesman is ok here.

Maybe something like "Which orgs would benefit from my unpaid labor?" or "Offer: I can work on your project for free for some months (Tech/Operation/Management)".

Great to see that you are seriously thinking about promoting etg!

If I had refreshed the frontpage and seen your post on etg I would not have posted my comment, I was just a bit surprised to see the "obvious" strategy of "lets promote etg" not explicitly mentioned.

A strategy for scaling effective giving that is not mentioned here is earning to give.

Encouraging and helping people who are already bought into the idea of donating effectively to earn more could generate a lot of money and value. I think this strategy should be considered besides encouraging high-earners to donate effectively (I am not making a claim here about which is better).

A concrete step could be to talk to people from 80k about advertising earning to give again.

I hope we will endorse this, should it come to pass

Endorse what exactly? It is unclear to me what you mean there exactly.

This feels like misleading advertising to me, particularly "Election interference" and "Loss of social connection". Unless bluedot is doing some very different curriculum now and have a very different understanding of what alignment is. These bait-and-switch tactics might not be a good way to create a "big tent".

This seems false.

Consider three charities A,B,C and three voters X,Y,Z, who can donate $1 each. The matching funds are $3. Voter Z likes charity C and thinks A and B are useless, and gives everything to C. Voter Y likes charity B and thinks A and C are useless, and gives everything to B. Voter X likes charities A and B equally and thinks C is useless.

Then voter X can get more utility by giving everything to charity B, rather than splitting equally between A and B: If voter X gives everything to charity B, the proportions for charities A,B,C are If voter X splits between A and B, the proportions are The latter gives less utility according to voter X.

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