Constance Li

Strategic Advisor @ Impactful Animal Advocacy
555 karmaJoined Working (6-15 years)United States

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I started out as a animal advocate in 2001 at the age of 12. Nearly a decade later, I discovered effective altruism and decided to start down an earning to give career path as a physician. Currently, I own a health services business and donate my time and money to direct work in animal advocacy. You usually can find me at the Impactful Animal Advocacy slack community.

How others can help me

If you are a funder, researcher, or MEL specialist interested in helping out more in the animal advocacy space, your talents are sorely needed! Please join the slack and send me a DM so I can get you plugged in to the best channels to collaborate with others in these neglected fields within the movement. 

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Question: Are you still coming out with the new reactions

Comment/Feedback: It seems the AI narration only captures the initial post and not the edited sections. This only plays for 55s until the end of the first set of bullet points and before it says that it was edited to add something.

Comment/Feedback: Are you able to make it so that clicking the top right link icon on comments automatically copies the URL to that comment instead of users needing to navigate to the new page and then copying the URL from the address bar?

I was drawn to this post because of the word "Goldilocks," which reminded me of The Goldilocks Challenge. Is it just a coincidence that this post contains the word Goldilocks or is it related to the book?

Btw, I am curious because I was planning on "reading" this book, but couldn't find the PDF anywhere. And I say "reading" because these days I mostly upload the PDF to the chatGPT PDF reader and chat with it since I lack the time to read a whole book. 

Hey Spencer, just wanted to say a big thank you for your excellent research and clear writing on ContraPest. Your work is really helping people to understand this complex issue better.

I live in NYC and the rat problem is pretty bad here. A lot of it has to do the unfettered access the rats have to food in trash. Unlike most other cities, NYC was built without any alleyways, making it very hard to keep trash contained. The trash ends up in bags on the sidewalks where rodents can easily chew through the plastic and have an all-they-can-eat buffet.

I've been thinking about this and recently someone pointed out that some cities in Europe are using underground garbage bins

These bins could help cut down the rat problem by making it harder for them to get to the trash. It's a non-pharmaceutical intervention that could significantly cut down on the rat population!

Thanks again for your great work, Spencer. It's really making a difference. :)

Hey, loved reading your post, really resonated with me! I've personally witnessed those capacity building, collaboration, and funding gaps you mentioned. I've been wrestling with these issues myself, and it's why I decided to throw my support behind this new initiative, the Impactful Animal Advocacy Slack Community, which seems to fill a lot of these gaps. There are almost 800 members now and about a dozen of posts each day with a strong no infighting culture. Plus, there are some funders and philanthropy advisors hanging out there! Everyone is welcome to join. :)

I can definitely attest to this timeline as someone who does earning to give and had a hard time with EA in 2022. I am so glad you wrote this. We can all do a little bit more to do good in the world and it wouldn't even need to cost anything. I hope we can come back to sanity. Here's to third wave EA!

Have you heard of ribon.io? They are a giving platform via an app and have a cool giving game-style concept.

The optics of the Wytham Abbey and The Rose Garden Inn don't help with the image of longtermists being seen as power seeking. Both got significant funding from Open Philanthropy at some point and primarily seem to serve to house longtermists and host longtermism events. In addition, they both seem to be quite aesthetically lavish although the folks leading these projects would argue that the high-end aesthetics are for optimizing the impact of the people that work/live in these spaces. 

Geoffrey I noticed that you used the words "humanity" and "human future" when referring to what longtermism is about. Well... I noticed it because I specifically searched for the term on the page and yours was the only one that used these terms in this way. I honestly expected there to be more uses of these descriptors. 

I do find the speciesist bias in longtermism to be one thing that has always bothered me. It seems like animals are always left out of the discussion when it comes to the long term future. Some examples I can call to mind are the name of The Future of Humanity Institute or an OP sponsored Kurzgesagt video inadvertently promoting wild animal s-risk in other planets.

Questions and comments in no particular order:

  1. Would we be able to select multiple reactions? I love being able to do that on slack. 
  2. I agree that the upvote/downvote and agree/disagree options in the comments are confusing.
  3. I'm a little confused about the truth-seeking option because it seems to be more of a label/status for the commenter or poster rather than a reaction from the reader. 
  4. The checkmark, heart, and celebrate seem like they all serve about the same purpose of liking the post, but they seem fluffy and I can't see more substance to them other than being generally supportive. 
  5. I like the "changed my mind" one the best. I would love to receive that reaction the most.
  6. Maybe there could be an "intrigued" or "confused" option? That would indicate that reactors want to hear more either in the form of elaboration or clarification.
  7. A "fire" emoji for spicy or hard hitting posts?
  8. A "sad" emoji for sympathy?
  9. A "X" emoji for disagreeing seems good.
  10. Some sort of emoji for "not helpful" could provide good feedback when there isn't a reason to disagree per se. However, it might also discourage people from commenting more on the forum unless they feel they have something high quality to say. 
  11. I like the standard emoji colors better and I think people would engage more with those.
  12. I think reactions should not be anonymous. 

I really appreciate that you wrote this post. I think these are some extremely valuable lessons and a good reminder that EA orgs are not always more enlightened than traditional charities. 

What do you think about using this research as a basis of a grant application to try and make an LLM that turn out articles that highlight more of the animal agriculture industry's negative environmental/economic impact on the global south?

I wrote about this grant opportunity here

TLDR: The Bill and Melinda Gates foundation is offering up to 100k of grant funding per project led by people in Low/Middle Income countries that leverages ChatGPT4 in novel and impactful ways. Proposals are due by June 5, 2023 (window of application is only 2 weeks so likely a much smaller than normal group of applicants)

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